Barry Davidson sent in this print and photo of the original 1935 Civil Tower, a colour shot of the Orangefield Tower and several others inserted further down the post dated between 1942 and 1960
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PK0_1a The Tiger Moths appear to be G-ADWO, G-ADWJ and G-ADWA
PK0_1b from Barry Davidson and dated 1941. Still flying the civil air ensign and civil registered aircraft are present,
PK0_2 from Dave Smith Prestwick, RAF Volunteer Reserve Flying Centre. Blenheim Mk1 K-7557/5
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PK02b USAF C-69 Constellation
PK02c USAF Boeing C-97 Stratofreighter
PK02d XL497/041 Fairey Gannet AEW.3, Gate Guardian HMS Gannet
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Thanks to Malcolm Hemming for this photo of the original RAF Watch room on the old Orangefield house 1943-62
PK0_4 and from Dave Smith
Prestwick in 1944. An American visitor is in the background and two Coastal Command Liberators can be seen. I note that the windows are angled, quite an innovation at that time even though the Beehive at Gatwick had them in the 1930s. The only other one from WWII in the UK that I know of was Langford Lodge where they even had angled windows on the loos!
PK0_5 from Dave Smith, Prestwick C-47
also from Dave two film showing Transatlantic Air Control and Prestwick tower
Atlantic Air Control and Prestwick
and the 1944 expansion of Prestwick showing some ATC
Prestwick Airport Expansion 1944
three more photos, this time from Ray Draper
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PK1b inside the RAF Prestwick watch room above. Looks like a USAAF visitor on the right.
PK1bb from Barry Davidson
PK1c 1942
PK1d 1950
PK1e (postcard from Barry Davidson)
PK1f lastly and sadly, Dave Smith sent in this photo of the remains of “the old Orangefield terminal tower” destroyed by fire. However Ray Draper commented that the building more closely resembles the original tower/terminal building.
PK1g from Barry Davidson. SAS Cloudmaster landing. Note GCA radar trucks in the centre of the image.
PK1h EGPK GCA Bill Bain closest to camera photo Heather Bain
On the back it has “Talking Down” an aircraft at Prestwick. In a caravan parked ..of the main runway, this controller is watching on a radar screen the progress of an aircraft landing in fog ad direct … over the radio telephone. This is the Ground Control. “
Part of it unclear. The Picture is Bill Bain and Morris Bennett and was sent to Bill from George Mundell Oct 1967 who found it after the NATCS display at the air show. Georges comment in a letter to Bill “taken in the old federal truck when you had a little more hair than you have now.”
More historic photos came in from Barry Davidson, a set of commemorative postcards, issued by Scottish Aviation, of Prestwick Airport 1935 – 85.
PK1g the new tower
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Layout plan of Prestwick Tower egpk-tower-drawing-1958
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from Tim Marshall
The controller in PK6 is Tony Riome, who worked at Croydon (really!!) in his early years! Alive and well living in Ayrshire (2016)
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PK7
on the left is supervisor John Rogers, who was a keen aviation photographer. If anyone has a contact for him he probably has plenty of Prestwick pictures. Jon Wornham
ATSA on far right (sitting) is Mick Land John A Baker
PK8a is this the met observers post? (Barry Davidson)
PK9a this seems to be taken just before the new terminal and apron opened. The initial home of ScOATCC, at Redbrae, seems to be still standing
PK10a Air Atlantique’s G-AMHJ in service with the DoT pollution control service with Apron Control in the background.
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PK10_2 Viscount G-AMOG
three photos from Jon Wornham in the late 90s
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PK12b
PK12c
PK12d (via Colin McKeeman)
a series of photos just entitled Prestwick and dated 22nd March 1963
SOME AERIAL VIEWS OF THE BRITISH AEROSPACE TRAINING COLLEGE
PK19 by Barry Davidson
I flew out of here in 97 on an RAF Tristar to Butterworth in Malaysia. Our boarding cards from the USAF MAC (military airlift command) detachment that moved out in the early nineties.
And at least Prestwick has a railway station, so far its the only airport in Scotland that has one on site. Aberdeen and Leuchars have them nearby and Inverness is having one built but only Prestwick has one on site.
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And of course this was the place in Britain Elvis Presley set foot on when he was flying back to the States. Did anyone see him or know anyone who did?
By the way it was discovered a few years back that he visited London as a guest of Tommy Steele before he went through Prestwick.
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And in the last financial year Prestwick airport made a profit. Apparently it was due to the amount of American and Canadian military aircraft transiting through to deliver supplies to Ukraine.
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I was at the famous (some would say infamous!) airshow here in 1989. First of all a BA 747 diverted in with an indication of smoke in the cargo hold. Then the Navy Sea Fury couldnt retract one of its undercarriage legs. The pilot did his display and then went out over the sea to try and get the leg to unstick. But he couldnt so he had to bail out.
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Re: 1989 airshow…you forgot to add the Sea King hovering over the bomber pans that announced it had a hydraulic leak!
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Was on duty in the tower that day
Yep memorable and sad for the Sea Fury. Pilot was told not to attempt landing so had to wait for Gannet SeaKing to follow him out to sea to bail out and get picked up. He did a great display the day before🤷
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Just wondering if you know was INTAVA the fuel supplier for the planes and sea planes in 1945-48 in Prestwick?
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Prestwick was a land plane base, no flying boats. As INTAVA were a subsidiary of an American company (ESSO) I don’t know but we’ll see who comes back to you.
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The ‘Blenheim’ K7557 in PK0-2 is actually a rare beast; the Bristol 142 called ‘Britain First’. It was built by Bristol for Lord Rothermere of the Daily Mail as a fast passenger aircraft. It was so successful that the Air Ministry asked for a military version which became the Blenheim.
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PK7 is Huntley Ness senior Air Traffic Control Assistant.
Don Gillham. I think we discussed this elsewhere. The RCAF F104 very tall pilot was Mark Fairley. He was posted to Cold Lake Canada when the Canadians left their Prestwick base
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There is a question way above about picture PIK8a. That is the Apron Control Tower (non ATC). It was at the end of the new terminal central finger looking out towards Scottish Aviation (now Spirit Aerosystems) Apron Control can be seen very clearly behind the DC3 in picture 10a
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Don Gilham. The CF104 pilot was Captain Mark Fairley. Posted to Cold Lake after the Canadians left Prestwick
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Anyone remember my Dad Vic Oldcorn ?
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Yes, but only vaguely, and from 1967. He was the ATCC supervisor when this picture was taken:
which is on the Redbrae site:
https://atchistory.wordpress.com/2017/10/08/redbrae-scatcc/
Vic’s nameplate is visible on the supervisors desk on the left.
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Thank you so much for that. I had seen that photo but not noticed the name plate
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Hello Avril, yes remember your dad well and your mum Karen and you. Dad, Bill Bain died in 2005 and Bill Pavitt, I think the last of the gang attended his funeral. Heather
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Oh Heather how lovely to hear from you ! Yes happy memories of our time as kids in Troon and Prestwick. Still have photos of us all. How is Hilora? I remember she wrote to Mum when Dad died . I have not long finished doing an album if Dad’s time in the RAF. Karen is in Edinburgh and I’m in Aberdeenshire. Would be great to have a longer chat away from here?
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Good to be in touch
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Yes indeed Heather
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John – I believe the building shown as PK_1e is same as PK0_1 and the Glasgow Herald image – on the original flying school site, not the Orangefield terminal.
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Great people to work with in ATC
Many happy memories
John Tierney
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PK8 shows Matt Waller on what was the APC desk (later to become the GMC desk when the BAe Flying College opened), clearly giving Aidan Trotter some stick on the ADC desk. I thought it was me on the ADC desk when I first saw the photo, but I NEVER, repeat NEVER wore white socks! Happy Days, probably about 1984?
Mark Howell (EGNX since leaving PK at the end of 1989)
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The Mark Howell who qualified with Paul Smy certainly never wore white socks!
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Wow! Hi Hilary, how are you? I’ m sure I remember hearing that you had made you way out to New Zealand some time go and had a couple of kids?
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Christmas greetings from New Zealand! hilaryseddon@hotmail.com
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I know that HF R/T communications was moved from Prestwick to Birdlip in August 1952 (per NOTAM 457/1952) but HF W/T lingered on for a few years at Prestwick. Would anybody know when this W/T facility actually ceased at Redbrae?
Colin
[author of “A History of the Birdlip Aeronautical Communication Complex (1940-2015)”]
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Hi Colin. I can’t help with the dates but a picture has surfaced here of HMS Wagtail at Heathfield and the HF aerials are clearly visible. I think Wagtail closed in 1946
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….and the old ATC logs still reside in the Mitchell Library, Glasgow for public inspection, having reviewed same on several occasions….great movements!
Colin
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Great memories of CF104s needing CHAGs just to add to the fun. A good air show then too.
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CHAG engagements usually by ‘Bugle 101’, Captain MacGregor, RCAF.
The sound of the J79 is unforgettable. “Cross Ailsa Craig FL290 or above…”
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Music, not sound!
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When I was a Cadet at Prestwick in 1976, the CF104Gs were flown by “Musket 90”, with an unforgettable inflexion in his voice. I forget his name, but he was a very atll man to fly 104s. Ahhh that howl !!!
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Prestwick ATC
Worked in the Control Tower Admin under George Mundell then Tom Harrison from Oct 1966 to June 1968. Great times and happy memories.
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They certainly were, Brian! And some good music 😉
ATB
Malcy
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